Subject	NGK ZFR6F-11 Copper Plugs. I put a set in two days ago and
Posted by	AshsZ (FABio) on December 31, 2002 at 7:26 AM
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Message	have been running around with them. I wasn't sure of what to gap them at so I just left them at the gap they were at (0.040"). I haven't experienced any misfire so the spark is good. The only question I have about them is why are people *swearing* by these plugs? I haven't noticed any performance gain from them and fuel economy is no better/worse. If anything, it is idling a little rougher than it was with the PFR platinum series plugs I had in there. They were $2.7x each which is by far cheaper than the platinum counterparts, but honestly, if they are not making any improvement and appear to actually be hurting the idle, why use them? Perhaps I gapped them incorrectly? Anyone else running these plugs having this problem? [ ashleypowers.com ] [ agpowers@bellsouth.net ] [ Zemulator Information Sheet ] When pigs dance, you better get it on video... "You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive." -George Carlin
Follow Ups	NGK ZFR6F-11 Copper Plugs. I put a set in two days ago and - AshsZ (FABio) 07:26:22 12/31/02 I thought they stay cooler than the plat's for engines - dragonballz 07:50:56 12/31/02 ash fails to read that part of posts. - Halo Z 08:02:59 12/31/02 I was told that the plug absorbs the heat of detonation> - AshsZ (FABio) 08:19:01 12/31/02 try regaping to .35, Thats what one of thoose post suggested - dragonballz 08:26:27 12/31/02 Uhh. It would be 0.035", and it wouldn't help idle. It would - AshsZ (FABio) 08:48:49 12/31/02 why don't you just fab up an ignition amplifier, like w/6 - dragonballz 09:22:46 12/31/02 I have already increased the ignition dwell duty in the ECU> - AshsZ (FABio) 09:44:25 12/31/02 intresting, why the need for coppers then? (n/m) - dragonballz 09:48:35 12/31/02 No need, just wanted to check them out. The set was $18. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:02:16 12/31/02 i think it would be good to have a set sense you do tuneing - Halo Z 10:04:20 12/31/02 Perhaps. Interesting thing is though, tuning on the streets - AshsZ (FABio) 10:27:09 12/31/02 Tuning on the street is much better - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 10:32:43 12/31/02 that's my whole point, not every one can do it right. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:28:11 12/31/02 well the question you posted was... - Halo Z 08:47:07 12/31/02 I was only stating that I knew what you were saying. The - AshsZ (FABio) 08:53:05 12/31/02 what where the results? i haven't seen any of ppl with - Halo Z 08:59:31 12/31/02 My results were that with my low fuel pressure - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:33:26 12/31/02 What about the "fragments"? - NoItsaNA 15:21:52 12/31/02 Much better than fragments of piston. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 15:33:58 12/31/02 Someone told me they put the coppers in and 'felt' a - AshsZ (FABio) 09:35:22 12/31/02 forum person, or gatorland? (n/m) - Halo Z 09:47:10 12/31/02 LOL. It was a forum member, he AIM'd me when he put - AshsZ (FABio) 10:01:13 12/31/02 he prob had NA plugs in his TT. (n/m) - Halo Z 10:02:59 12/31/02 Mike(La Canada) used NA plugs in his 11s 1/4mi run on stock - AshsZ (FABio) 10:04:44 12/31/02 blah blah 96 little different blah blah. - Halo Z 10:07:10 12/31/02 I ran my first 12.70 pass with the NA plugs. I burned an - AshsZ (FABio) 10:31:37 12/31/02 you where also having misfires at high boost. (n/m) - Halo Z 11:29:05 12/31/02 That was in the beginning, because the gap was too large>> - AshsZ (FABio) 12:44:43 12/31/02 but will the typical TT get as good as burn with NA plugs - Halo Z 13:03:58 12/31/02 Shaved your mounds? ;-) Please explain.. - AshsZ (FABio) 13:06:24 12/31/02 sigh, nah, you can search for my old posts. (n/m) - Halo Z 19:47:20 12/31/02 Your News Resolution should be to stop attacking Ash - TARGETZ 09:48:51 12/31/02 im not, go back to sleep. - Halo Z 09:50:51 12/31/02 Wish I could pull my engine on a lunch brake :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:25:32 12/31/02 We "swear" by them because - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:27:51 12/31/02 I am running the #7's. They are gaped at .034 - TwinTurboPete 09:51:00 12/31/02 Mine idle perfect with them . Copper is a better - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:12:46 12/31/02 I'll check into that. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:33:07 12/31/02 Got mine from Napa for $1.60. Got to shop around. (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 10:15:36 12/31/02 I got mine from Napa too. :) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:31:57 12/31/02 They saw your cheap ass coming :) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 11:24:18 12/31/02 General comment;I Don't know much about using copper plugs> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:42:57 12/31/02 You are correct. They have to be changed with the oil.>> - AshsZ (FABio) 10:47:23 12/31/02 Yep, like in a catalytic converter> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:55:49 12/31/02 Haha, chm2045 right there. It does get consumed though (n/m) - U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03) 20:00:33 12/31/02 Look up the definition of "catalyst"> - cainmt (Toledo,OH) 10:03:21 01/01/03 That is why we replace copper more often. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 10:47:26 12/31/02 So what's the real advantage of copper plugs over platinum? - U ZCREAM (TTZ in '03) 12:15:51 12/31/02 Preventing a blown piston #6. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:46:16 12/31/02
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